Nothing creates activity quite like the question of inclusion vs. exclusion... and Attention, which is so vital to our virtual world it deserves capitalization (and probably doctrine and dogma).
Did you know the Second Life official product forum has subforums for two of its communities? Adults (XXX) and Vampires. Will Educators, Faeries (and their diminutive brethren), Furries, Gors, Texters and Voicers have subforums of their own soon? Are subforums offered or applied for? How does a group qualify? Is it based on demographics or should we follow the money? Are the Adult and Vampire communities the largest of the Second Life communities, and if so, by how much? Do they spend more money or draw more money? Do they have to maintain certain standards in order to keep their subforums? If they lose them, where will they go? Will they be archived? Why does the Adult community have a separate subforum of its own while the Vampires have a subforum within the People section? Are Adults not people too? Is there discrimination in the segregation? What's the message? Are the Adults finding it difficult to be Adult in a PG world? Adults and Vampires come with controversy, so what are the current debates? Who are the vocal minority? Did the separate subforums soothe the savage drama beast or fire its loins? Was it a clever maneuver, a thoughtless slip or a non-starter? Who's got the scoop on the rationale behind these decisions and the crystal ball that will tell us what happens next? Confidentially inquiring minds want to know.
I put together a little list of the "tribes" I had observed in my virtual travels and posted it on RLetc.com and gotVirtual.net a while back. I thought I'd give it a quick review to see if I noticed more opportunities for SLF subforums. Who have I missed? Check it out. Here's a copy:
I gave it some thought and began building a list of what I perceived to be the "tribes" of virtual worlds:
The Tribes
✣ Bloodlines (vampires, werewolves, etc.) vs. non-bloodlines (live humans)
✣ Faeries and tiny people vs. standard or tall avatars
✣ Furries vs. humans
✣ BDSM & Gor vs. non.
✣ Texters vs. voicers.
✣ Child avis vs. adult avis.
✣ Fantasy-based players vs. reality-based players.
✣ Players vs. residents
✣ Extroverts vs. introverts
✣ Gesture users vs. gesture haters
✣ Rude and careless vs. considerate and thoughtful
✣ Beggars and spammers vs. everyone else
✣ Griefers vs. non-griefers
Under construction.
Links:
http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Vampire-Events-Discussion/bd-p/Vampires
http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Adult-Content-Forum/ct-p/forums_adultcontent
http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Welcome/Community-Guidelines/td-p/1176323
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/thats-what-she-said.772/page-6#post-24480
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Sunday, November 6, 2011
Monday, September 19, 2011
Thursday, September 15, 2011
Blog Stats & Search Keywords
I find the blog stats fascinating. I have my doubts about their reliability...natch. Right now, using the "Now" link that supposedly shows two hours worth of data, I see that there have been seven people from Iran and five from the United States looking at my blog and at least one of them got here by searching Google for "virtual game lil peps." I would love the opportunity to ask secondary questions.
Looking at "All Time" I see that most viewers come from the U.S., the Netherlands, Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia and Germany. No surprise there. There is also an unaccountably high number of people from Latvia viewing all of my blogs (not just this one).
Forum Confidential, Pserendipity Daniels' "Pep's Parenthetical Postscripts," Google, SLF, SC MKII, gV and my own blogs continue to be the top-referring sites to this blog.
Variations of my own name and that of Seicher Rae and Jon Finkel continue to lead the top of the "Search Keywords" list. Some of the ones lower down the list that amuse me besides "virtual game lil peps" are "realistic pubic hair," "ripped union jack flag shorts," "daddy dom" and "whore wiki." There have also been some very disappointed searchers for "magic the gathering," I'm sure. And I'm real curious about the people who got here via "a."
The blog posts that have received the most views are, again not surprisingly, the ones about sex and gV forum moderation.
And y'all are slaves to Windows and Firefox. ;)
ETA:
This is from today's data.

Really?
Looking at "All Time" I see that most viewers come from the U.S., the Netherlands, Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia and Germany. No surprise there. There is also an unaccountably high number of people from Latvia viewing all of my blogs (not just this one).
Forum Confidential, Pserendipity Daniels' "Pep's Parenthetical Postscripts," Google, SLF, SC MKII, gV and my own blogs continue to be the top-referring sites to this blog.
Variations of my own name and that of Seicher Rae and Jon Finkel continue to lead the top of the "Search Keywords" list. Some of the ones lower down the list that amuse me besides "virtual game lil peps" are "realistic pubic hair," "ripped union jack flag shorts," "daddy dom" and "whore wiki." There have also been some very disappointed searchers for "magic the gathering," I'm sure. And I'm real curious about the people who got here via "a."
The blog posts that have received the most views are, again not surprisingly, the ones about sex and gV forum moderation.
And y'all are slaves to Windows and Firefox. ;)
ETA:
This is from today's data.

Really?
Tuesday, September 13, 2011
Tuesday, September 6, 2011
Where are the best places to talk Second Life Sex? (mature-adult-NSFW-XXX)
This question has come up a number of times before, I know, and it has come up again, most recently in SLF, so I decided to post about it here, in gV and on SLU.
Here's my post on gV and SLU:
"Where are the best places (blogs, forums, websites, sims, etc.) to talk about sex in Second Life among adults with a frank and open discussion? Topics might include prim genitalia, etiquette, how-to for newbies, fetishes, paraphilias, NSFW & XXX content, sex sims, sex products, etc. And why? (Why is that the best place?) The question came up in SLF and I thought it might be interesting to get comments and referrals."
Here are the questions asked by Aleesha Snow that got the ball rolling this go round.
Aleesha Snow said...
Aleesha Snow also said...
Links:
http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Lifestyles-and-Relationships/Finding-Current-Info-on-SL-Sex/td-p/1081169
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/where-are-the-best-places-to-talk-second-life-sex-mature-nsfw.2546/
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/64052-where-best-places-talk-second.html
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/lets-make-sexy-time/
http://whatleesaid.blogspot.com/2011/09/sex-questions-on-second-life-forums-slf.html
http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Lifestyles-and-Relationships/Where-do-YOU-think-the-best-place-to-talk-about-sex-in-Second/td-p/1086709
Here's my post on gV and SLU:
"Where are the best places (blogs, forums, websites, sims, etc.) to talk about sex in Second Life among adults with a frank and open discussion? Topics might include prim genitalia, etiquette, how-to for newbies, fetishes, paraphilias, NSFW & XXX content, sex sims, sex products, etc. And why? (Why is that the best place?) The question came up in SLF and I thought it might be interesting to get comments and referrals."
Here are the questions asked by Aleesha Snow that got the ball rolling this go round.
Aleesha Snow said...
"I'm looking into making a foray into the world of SL sex. Before I get involved, I have been noticing that there are so many options as far as body parts, HUDs, and many other things. Some things are stand alone, others need compatible items to work properly. It is all so confusing. I decided to search for information online. Unfortunately, after several hours, was unable to locate anything on the web that wasn't a number of years old and, apparently, no longer pertinent. I'm not sure I am in the right place to even ask this question. Can someone point me to a place where I can get up to date and accurate information on all of this? Thank You A~"
Aleesha Snow also said...
"Thanks Ariel, and thanks to all who replied. I really appreciate it. Reading all of your responses have helped but I think Ariel hit the nail on the head. There is just so much that it is hard to ask specific questions. The "genital Attachment" question was one for instance. I personally don't need one and sex for me is more cerebral than visual, yet I didn't know if guys would look at me as cheap or less desirable if I didn't have one. It is things like that. Its good to know that the older information can be relied upon today. I will look at it with a different eye. Guess I need to find my online mentor. Thank you all A~"
Links:
http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Lifestyles-and-Relationships/Finding-Current-Info-on-SL-Sex/td-p/1081169
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/where-are-the-best-places-to-talk-second-life-sex-mature-nsfw.2546/
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/general-sl-discussion/64052-where-best-places-talk-second.html
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/lets-make-sexy-time/
http://whatleesaid.blogspot.com/2011/09/sex-questions-on-second-life-forums-slf.html
http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Lifestyles-and-Relationships/Where-do-YOU-think-the-best-place-to-talk-about-sex-in-Second/td-p/1086709
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Sunday, September 4, 2011
Earthly Infractions Reported in 'Forum Feedback'
Lias said...
If you get banned from gV and wish to appeal, it helps to solicit a sponsor to appeal on your behalf so you don't circumvent the alt rule and create grounds to be banned again.
nina said:
nina said:
nina said:
colleen said:
nina said:
Links:
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/forum-feedback.1114/page-149#post-114818
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/new-member-alert.746/page-95#post-114269
http://leeherevw.blogspot.com/2011/08/gv-forum-ban-appeals-process.html
http://leeherevw.blogspot.com/2011/08/forum-feedback-aka-lees-manifesto.html
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/standing-invitation-for-scmk-ii-and-slu-people-who-have-an-axe-to-grind.243/page-153#post-60075
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/standing-invitation-for-scmk-ii-and-slu-people-who-have-an-axe-to-grind.243/page-152#post-60049
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/standing-invitation-for-scmk-ii-and-slu-people-who-have-an-axe-to-grind.243/page-153#post-60094
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/our-rights-part-ii.372/page-2#post-11744
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/our-rights-part-ii.372/#post-11537
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/our-rights-part-ii.372/#post-11497
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/phase-2-construction.156/#post-3615
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/infraction-appeal-process.2537/#post-115582
ETA:
nina said:
nina said:
nina said:
nina said:
nina said (to Cato Badger):
ETA2:
Earth said...
"community governance was abandoned here, gV update - 22.apr.11, prior to the ban appeal resolution.
it clearly states:
there is already a 'contact us' link in the lower right of the page.
that is not as helpful as one may think. it increases the level of drama more often than not. it would be far easier to deal with most matters if petrol wasnt poured on a developing drama."
ETA3:
nina said...
"So Earth gave out infractions t Cato, Lain andI in theew member thread. Here is what each of us got an infraction for:"[quotes some of the "infracted" posts]
"I asked him to ask that question elsewhere and Lain answered him politely and we were cited for dramatizing the thread.
Where is the appeal process? There is no way to respond to the conversation Earth started to dole out the infraction and no written appeal process in the infraction information area. To be fair an appeal process needs to be available."







"the right to appeal
in the event that an inhabitant is subjected to quarantine or scrubbed, they will be afforded an opportunity to appeal to the community for relief."
If you get banned from gV and wish to appeal, it helps to solicit a sponsor to appeal on your behalf so you don't circumvent the alt rule and create grounds to be banned again.
nina said:
"the right to appeal - people should have an opportunity to make their case against whatever discipline publicly"
nina said:
"opportunity to appeal to the community' could mean many things, not necessarily appealing to a mob. it could mean a single post asking for forgiveness, it could mean an entire thread to discuss the merits of the discipline, it could even mean an appeal judged by a panel of peers. the mechanics arent specified."
nina said:
"i will say this though, the Inhabitant Rights state that pep has the right to appeal his banning. start a thread dedicated to peps appeal and lets see how people feel about the topic"
colleen said:
"Who reps the banned person?"
nina said:
"if there is a case where nobody wants to rep the banned person... that says a lot right there hey"
Links:
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/forum-feedback.1114/page-149#post-114818
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/new-member-alert.746/page-95#post-114269
http://leeherevw.blogspot.com/2011/08/gv-forum-ban-appeals-process.html
http://leeherevw.blogspot.com/2011/08/forum-feedback-aka-lees-manifesto.html
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/standing-invitation-for-scmk-ii-and-slu-people-who-have-an-axe-to-grind.243/page-153#post-60075
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/standing-invitation-for-scmk-ii-and-slu-people-who-have-an-axe-to-grind.243/page-152#post-60049
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/standing-invitation-for-scmk-ii-and-slu-people-who-have-an-axe-to-grind.243/page-153#post-60094
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/our-rights-part-ii.372/page-2#post-11744
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/our-rights-part-ii.372/#post-11537
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/our-rights-part-ii.372/#post-11497
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/phase-2-construction.156/#post-3615
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/infraction-appeal-process.2537/#post-115582
ETA:
nina said:
"bear in mind that at the time the inhabitants rights were created we hadnt yet abandoned the idea of community governance."
nina said:
"well its true. it was stated that we would continue to use the rights and standards though, so they are alive. peps unbanning is an example of the post-governance appeal process in action. if it is an appeal of consequence or matter it will be addressed i am certain."
nina said:
"it could be done easier than people think. if one had the technical ability to make the websites design reflect the model of governance in use, that would go a huge way toward making something work."
nina said:
"there is no appeal process. infractions came about after the collapse of governance. once inhabitants made it clear that they were not willing to trust one another to have any say in governance and forced mars to permanently move to an internal security policy (mars' best judgement), this is the result. i suppose if one felt so strongly about an infraction they could start a thread in engineering, but i wouldnt hold my breath waiting for a favourable resolution."
nina said (to Cato Badger):
"i loved doing it to 'your mom' and cristiano. i know full well how fun it is, which probably makes it less fun for you thats why i dont hold it against you."
ETA2:
Earth said...
"community governance was abandoned here, gV update - 22.apr.11, prior to the ban appeal resolution.
it clearly states:
that is not as helpful as one may think. it increases the level of drama more often than not. it would be far easier to deal with most matters if petrol wasnt poured on a developing drama."
ETA3:
nina said...
"everything about the administration has, since day zero, discouraged back-channel negotiations and dealings. to the degree that planet are forbidden to use a non-public venue. the planets are all anon, and tried to remain 100% anon since the beginning. planets cannot be messaged, and can message only one another. i keep my conversations turned off and any email/in-world discussion pretty safe. everything indicates that appeals are supposed to be done publically. it is an appeal to the community, hoping for them to take up your cause. it is not an appeal to mars.
two things that are problematic and infraction-worthy are these things happening in the no-drama zones: telling another they have been reported (escalating drama) and forum-policing (escalating drama).no-drama means no drama. one doesnt need to be swearing or name-calling to incite drama. ive been very good at it at times.
the planets were chosen from the gV community, with diligent efforts being made to ensure that various 'factions' were represented. if at any time one of them is truly going rouge, there is nothing to prevent one from being ousted. if half the people are saying some particular planet is 'corrupt', that would be cause for alarm."
Wednesday, August 31, 2011
nina node news
nina wants, well...see for yourself.
![[IMG]](http://img.gotvirtual.net/xenforo/nsfw/sfw.png)
![[IMG]](http://img.gotvirtual.net/xenforo/nsfw/sfw.png)
Links:
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/utherverse.2496/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/strange-new-worlds.2504/#post-113604
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/utherverse-redlight-center-virtual-world-on-thegrid-a-mature-area17-nsfw-red-thread.1180/
"how many people are familiar with utherverse? this is that red light game yes?"
![[IMG]](http://img.gotvirtual.net/xenforo/nsfw/sfw.png)
"i knew there were quite a few that came from the rlc. im just thinking about how a non-sl virtual world can be better represented on gV."
"can we please avoid drama in the no drama thread?"
![[IMG]](http://img.gotvirtual.net/xenforo/nsfw/sfw.png)
"my goal wouldnt be so much an active recruitment exercise so much as an effort to make gV more relevant to existing utherpeeps. im not really concerned how it might 'go over' so far as drama and such. im not really into that sort of thing. i simply see something that needs to be done and am looking to do it."
"i cant believe we dont have a list of all known virtual worlds! see, this is what i was on about earlier. gV needs a list of virtual worlds at minimum, and a detailed review of each of them at best."
"the question is if theyd rather have me cluelessly importing rss and posting not only shallow content, but possibly inaccurate or outdated content... or perhaps give me a bit of guidance?"
"this isnt about direct recruitment. its about gV fitting its role better. sure, we could just roll out a dead empty node for every virtual world running. but i was thinking more in line with articles or write ups on different things. maybe even using the gV integrated wiki for something. whatever it is, it must be done right. there is no super rush to get anything done immediately."
Links:
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/utherverse.2496/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/strange-new-worlds.2504/#post-113604
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/utherverse-redlight-center-virtual-world-on-thegrid-a-mature-area17-nsfw-red-thread.1180/
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Internet Death Threats

How do you know when they are the real thing and not just the hyperbole du jour?
Has Mulch been issuing them? Veiled or otherwise? Is he "ashamed of his history"? What is his "history"?
Is Clancy ashamed of whatever it is he is "planning to do"?
Will there be a confrontation? A confession? Will this story blow up or will it stay "off the record, on the QT, and very hush-hush"? Confidentially inquiring minds want to know.
Links:
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/so-i-couldnt-ignore-tarzan-anymore.2497/page-2#post-113263
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/so-i-couldnt-ignore-tarzan-anymore.2497/page-2#post-113269
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/so-i-couldnt-ignore-tarzan-anymore.2497/page-2#post-113520
http://mulched.blogspot.com/2007/08/internet-death-threats.html
Sunday, August 28, 2011
Saturday, August 27, 2011
Keeping up with cross-forum drama?
Here. You'll need these:
gotvirtual.net
re: Fester
re: Lucifer Baphomet
re: Vivianne Draper
Mulch Profile
uncle fester Profile
Mitch_Wexler Profile
secondcitizen.net
re: Mulch
OMFG MR NO MODERATION MODERATED ME!!!!!111111!!!
Mitch Wexler is a poopiehead
Towards a more "welcoming" SC#2.
Official Who Left SC and Came Back Thread
Mulch Profile
Uncle Fester Profile
Mitch_Wexler Profile
SLUniverse
Mulch Maker Profile
Uncle Fester Profile
Mitch Wexler Profile
Feted Inner Horde
Mulch Profile
Uncle Fester (Scy) Profile
Mitch_Wexler Profile
gotvirtual.net
re: Fester
re: Lucifer Baphomet
re: Vivianne Draper
Mulch Profile
uncle fester Profile
Mitch_Wexler Profile
secondcitizen.net
re: Mulch
OMFG MR NO MODERATION MODERATED ME!!!!!111111!!!
Mitch Wexler is a poopiehead
Towards a more "welcoming" SC#2.
Official Who Left SC and Came Back Thread
Mulch Profile
Uncle Fester Profile
Mitch_Wexler Profile
SLUniverse
Mulch Maker Profile
Uncle Fester Profile
Mitch Wexler Profile
Feted Inner Horde
Mulch Profile
Uncle Fester (Scy) Profile
Mitch_Wexler Profile
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Wednesday, August 24, 2011
Rumble in (TBD)
Rumble in Reno was such a success, it appears there may be plans for another Rumble, location to be determined. This time it would be Mulch vs. Uncle Fester. The back-up dancing chickens have not yet been cast. Place your bets. And remember, if Mulch comes at ya, you'll see him coming.
Links:
http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/showpost.php?p=392595&postcount=53
http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/showthread.php?p=392595#post392595
http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/showthread.php?t=14689
http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/showthread.php?t=14682
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/re-fester.2456/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/mulch-vs-wad-ppv.1643/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/mulch-waits-for-wad.1699/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/pointless-drama-treadmill.1638/
http://fetedinnerhorde.com/forums
gV
re: Fester
SC MKII
re: Mulch
OMFG MR NO MODERATION MODERATED ME!!!!!111111!!!
Attention all Members, Applicants, and Alumni of the Feted Inner Horde Guild

ETA: Summary on gV.
I think it may have gone a little like this.
1. Uncle Fester sent Mulch a message asking about a name.
2. Mulch invited Uncle Fester to join Mulch's relatively new forum (FIH).
3. Uncle Fester joined that forum.
4. Uncle Fester gave it all some more thought and realized that he was offended because a) he felt guilted into joining the new forum and b) Lain (is Bams) was invited to join the forum before Uncle Fester was invited. (Attention all Members, Applicants, and Alumni of the Feted Inner Horde Guild)
5. Uncle Fester requested that his FIH account be deleted.
6. Mulch complied by banning the Fester FIH account (Scy).
7. Uncle Fester gave it all some more thought and realized that he was offended that his account was deleted via banning.
8. Uncle Fester said some unpleasant things to or about Imaya Kita, Mulch's girlfriend. The word "cunt" came up a couple times.
9. Uncle Fester involved Mulch's RL aunt/godmother, Vamp, who is the guild head and a major reason there is a FIH forum in the first place.
10. Uncle Fester posted about these perceived offenses on SC MKII. (OMFG MR NO MODERATION MODERATED ME!!!!!111111!!!)
11. Mulch was made aware of all of this and got annoyed and called Uncle Fester out here in this thread on gV.
12. Cross-forum drama continued publicly with threads in both gV and SC MKII with other posters having their say.
13. Uncle Fester declared Mulch the winner in the SC MKII thread.
14. Now we're doing the post-mortem.
I think that's it anyway.
ETA3: Vintage forum posting right here. Quoting the "ignored" in an attempt to be clever.

Links:
http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/showpost.php?p=392595&postcount=53
http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/showthread.php?p=392595#post392595
http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/showthread.php?t=14689
http://www.secondcitizen.net/Forum/showthread.php?t=14682
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/re-fester.2456/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/mulch-vs-wad-ppv.1643/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/mulch-waits-for-wad.1699/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/pointless-drama-treadmill.1638/
http://fetedinnerhorde.com/forums
gV
re: Fester
SC MKII
re: Mulch
OMFG MR NO MODERATION MODERATED ME!!!!!111111!!!
Attention all Members, Applicants, and Alumni of the Feted Inner Horde Guild

ETA: Summary on gV.
I think it may have gone a little like this.
1. Uncle Fester sent Mulch a message asking about a name.
2. Mulch invited Uncle Fester to join Mulch's relatively new forum (FIH).
3. Uncle Fester joined that forum.
4. Uncle Fester gave it all some more thought and realized that he was offended because a) he felt guilted into joining the new forum and b) Lain (is Bams) was invited to join the forum before Uncle Fester was invited. (Attention all Members, Applicants, and Alumni of the Feted Inner Horde Guild)
5. Uncle Fester requested that his FIH account be deleted.
6. Mulch complied by banning the Fester FIH account (Scy).
7. Uncle Fester gave it all some more thought and realized that he was offended that his account was deleted via banning.
8. Uncle Fester said some unpleasant things to or about Imaya Kita, Mulch's girlfriend. The word "cunt" came up a couple times.
9. Uncle Fester involved Mulch's RL aunt/godmother, Vamp, who is the guild head and a major reason there is a FIH forum in the first place.
10. Uncle Fester posted about these perceived offenses on SC MKII. (OMFG MR NO MODERATION MODERATED ME!!!!!111111!!!)
11. Mulch was made aware of all of this and got annoyed and called Uncle Fester out here in this thread on gV.
12. Cross-forum drama continued publicly with threads in both gV and SC MKII with other posters having their say.
13. Uncle Fester declared Mulch the winner in the SC MKII thread.
14. Now we're doing the post-mortem.
I think that's it anyway.
ETA3: Vintage forum posting right here. Quoting the "ignored" in an attempt to be clever.

Tuesday, August 23, 2011
Clever Cato (the Badger)
Cato Badger said:
I hope that was original, as in not "done a dozen times on SLF and I never saw it," because it was damned clever.
"I agree although I know Pep describes his parenthetical postscripts as bathetic."
I hope that was original, as in not "done a dozen times on SLF and I never saw it," because it was damned clever.
Monday, August 22, 2011
Good Times on gV
High stakes too.
Cato Badger, not to be confused with Caitlin Tobias, is currently engaged in a semantics battle with Dakota Cody over whether the Badger always says "its not always malevolence but occasionally incompetence."
Cato Badger said:
Dakota Cody said:
And so on for twelve more posts and two pages with no end currently in sight.
Take a look at the choice of insult being bandied about between the two.
Caitlin Tobias, for her part, is currently passing tout like a battle ship in the argumentative night, just missing each other over some long not-lost and not-forgotten SLF forum grudge that involved, you guessed it, Pep. Much of this is going on in, of all places, the "gV Unofficial Useless Statistics" thread opened by Lias.
Just prior to all that the argument over who can lay claim to the forum use of "I'll be your Huckleberry" raised it's shaky head again. Lias continues to support her gV claim and Grady's SC MKII banner claim. Fuckwad's first use of it on the Utherforums remains largely uncontested, though Maryanne feels she used it more and there may be a higher claim in that. Which has more weight? First usage or amount of usage? I went off-forum in pointing out the 1993 usage in the movie "Tombstone" and Pep took us to 1900 with his blog post on the subject.
Jolene and Lias have been arguing over who is stalking who. I'm not even gonna link ya. It's all over the place.
Remember these blog posts?
gV Drama...It started with a little thread about desktop images.
gV Drama...It started with a little thread about desktop images. (Part II)
And this thread on gV? "What Computer Desktop Image Do You Use?"
Well you can get new episodes in these threads:
"Reddit pervs and pedos put paid to: no more Loli for you"
"2 or 3 Lollies, cosplay and circumstance."
Enjoy.
Wasted is back again shilling for his own forum and going on about how, yep, you guessed it, "The SL Related Forums Positively Suck." He's also been going through a heart-wrenching roller coaster ride in his relationship with Lias. All he can do now is stand back and trust that she is doing the right thing.
Did I mention that ew0k made a brief and nearly forgettable visit to gV? Yes? No? Oh well, never mind.
"Forum Feedback" is back! Current discussion? The alt policy and an opt-out feature. Funnily enough, the "legal threats/actions, death threats, etc" thread also sprang back to life.
nina said:
Lias said:
Maryanne and Pants got a little overwhelmed.
Pants said:
Maryanne said:

masonboob lover got booted and banned for being underage while forum whoring and perving the "Naughty" thread.
masonboob lover said:
It appears Bunnie got both her groove and her forum avatar back as the Spam can is gone.
Speaking of Bunnie, the latest post in the "Standing invitation for SCMK-II and SLU People who have an axe to grind....." thread is this one:
Bunnie said:

And this helpful quote and link from the changeling operating Mitch Wexler's avatar at present*:
*Mitch used to have a bit of a tendency to prompt other posters to say JFGI on the screen, under their breath and/or in their minds, so I have no idea who this Googling, surfing, quoting, linking fool operating his avatar now is or what has happened to Mitch. It's what prompted me to say this in gV earlier. Not that I'm complaining, mind you.
Fine print: "Fool" here is meant playfully as someone doing a lot of something with a certain amount of abandon, not an unintelligent jerk.
Ooh, look. A philosophy forum.
mickthinks said:
ETA4: A link to a list of gV posts with the most "likes."
ETA5:
nina said:
ETA6: Snapper is back.
ETA7:
Cato Badger said:
Cato Badger said:
ETA8: Poor Saffy Pants. We're going to drive her mad at this rate. See here. Hey, this is why I pick a name and a forum pic (and even a color) and stick with it. ;)
Cato Badger, not to be confused with Caitlin Tobias, is currently engaged in a semantics battle with Dakota Cody over whether the Badger always says "its not always malevolence but occasionally incompetence."
Cato Badger said:
"As I always say its not always malevolence but occasionally incompetence."
Dakota Cody said:
"Liar. This is the first time I've ever seen you say that."
And so on for twelve more posts and two pages with no end currently in sight.
Take a look at the choice of insult being bandied about between the two.
"You are HumptyDumptying."
Caitlin Tobias, for her part, is currently passing tout like a battle ship in the argumentative night, just missing each other over some long not-lost and not-forgotten SLF forum grudge that involved, you guessed it, Pep. Much of this is going on in, of all places, the "gV Unofficial Useless Statistics" thread opened by Lias.
Just prior to all that the argument over who can lay claim to the forum use of "I'll be your Huckleberry" raised it's shaky head again. Lias continues to support her gV claim and Grady's SC MKII banner claim. Fuckwad's first use of it on the Utherforums remains largely uncontested, though Maryanne feels she used it more and there may be a higher claim in that. Which has more weight? First usage or amount of usage? I went off-forum in pointing out the 1993 usage in the movie "Tombstone" and Pep took us to 1900 with his blog post on the subject.
Jolene and Lias have been arguing over who is stalking who. I'm not even gonna link ya. It's all over the place.
Remember these blog posts?
gV Drama...It started with a little thread about desktop images.
gV Drama...It started with a little thread about desktop images. (Part II)
And this thread on gV? "What Computer Desktop Image Do You Use?"
Well you can get new episodes in these threads:
"Reddit pervs and pedos put paid to: no more Loli for you"
"2 or 3 Lollies, cosplay and circumstance."
Enjoy.
Wasted is back again shilling for his own forum and going on about how, yep, you guessed it, "The SL Related Forums Positively Suck." He's also been going through a heart-wrenching roller coaster ride in his relationship with Lias. All he can do now is stand back and trust that she is doing the right thing.
Did I mention that ew0k made a brief and nearly forgettable visit to gV? Yes? No? Oh well, never mind.
"Forum Feedback" is back! Current discussion? The alt policy and an opt-out feature. Funnily enough, the "legal threats/actions, death threats, etc" thread also sprang back to life.
nina said:
"sockpuppeting generally means using an alt to agree with your own arguments or team up with yourself against an adversary. or perhaps even using the alt to agree with an adversary and align with them using a strawman argument or otherwise trying to discredit their argument via 'guilt by association'.
rorting the trophy system is just that. using an alt to like your own posts to inflate trophy points and such."
"i have been contemplating the idea of having two opt-out options. one option to opt out of nsfw and another to opt out of sfw. if one opted out of either they wouldnt see any trace of any forum with that classification."
Lias said:
"I only did that to try to get normal functionality so I could like other's posts, select a mood, make an album and do some other updates.
If people could register a new account as an alt account and it could be given normal functionality immediately then that would be helpful."
Maryanne and Pants got a little overwhelmed.
Pants said:
"Oh dear, i cannot sort the CaTos and the catos and the Caitys. Who are the bad guys? I need to know"
"me groans. Ok just tell me who to Like please"
Maryanne said:
"Wait....
You have a manifesto?!?
I gotta quit skipping meetings."

masonboob lover got booted and banned for being underage while forum whoring and perving the "Naughty" thread.
masonboob lover said:
"ha ha very funny im 12 years old bitch and my iq is prolly on the up side of 110"What is the up side of 110?
It appears Bunnie got both her groove and her forum avatar back as the Spam can is gone.
Speaking of Bunnie, the latest post in the "Standing invitation for SCMK-II and SLU People who have an axe to grind....." thread is this one:
Bunnie said:
"After hiding out for I don't recall how long, I see Don Mill is Bulldick! posted over on SLU. Must be looking for someone else to file a suit on. Cristiano better watch his step!Last, but not least, consider enjoying a few drinks in the Saloon. You'll need 'em."

ETA: In addition to the "gV Unofficial Useless Statistics" thread started less than 24 hours ago, we now have a new companion thread complete with detailed scorecard graphic courtesy of Lias. "Absolutely Useless Unofficial gV Statistics"



ETA2: This one is from Earth in the "Absolutely Useless Unofficial gV Statistics" thread.

ETA3: The Badger explains "Humptydumptying."
"Humptydumptying means claiming to use a word in a particular way that is not the way in which it is usually perceived to be used like using say when nothing has been voiced or in forums when you have been caught using the wrong word like prosperity rather than posterity at which point you attempt to claim the moral high ground by saying that everyone knew what you meant and that it was only a bunch of letters with spaces on each end anyway and english is not a fixed language and if enough people use a word wrongly it becomes accepted usage and anyway english is not my first language and how many languages do you speak anyway and you are discriminating against me because I am a foreigner and I am a professor of linguistics in my own country and am an international soccer referee and can say penalty in sixteen different languages."
And this helpful quote and link from the changeling operating Mitch Wexler's avatar at present*:
"There is the problem of humptydumptying, whereby a person gives an unusual and private meaning to a word with a more common and public definition and thus causes unnecessary confusion."
*Mitch used to have a bit of a tendency to prompt other posters to say JFGI on the screen, under their breath and/or in their minds, so I have no idea who this Googling, surfing, quoting, linking fool operating his avatar now is or what has happened to Mitch. It's what prompted me to say this in gV earlier. Not that I'm complaining, mind you.
Fine print: "Fool" here is meant playfully as someone doing a lot of something with a certain amount of abandon, not an unintelligent jerk.
Ooh, look. A philosophy forum.
mickthinks said:
"Lewis Carroll had Humpty Dumpty say 'Words mean what I want them to mean'."
ETA4: A link to a list of gV posts with the most "likes."
ETA5:
nina said:
"a thread is nothing more than an initial post."
ETA6: Snapper is back.
ETA7:
Cato Badger said:
"You know what that reminds me of? This might annoy you though, but still: there was like a "movement" a little while ago, where homosexuals wanted to start calling themselves "Gays" rather than homosexuals because homosexual had too negative of a connotation or something. Well this caused a lot of consternation, because using the word "gay" to describe someone colloquially means you're calling them gay, and trying to refer to homosexuals exclusively as "gays" implied that they were gay to the exclusion of those who were not "gay". They tried arguing it, like "but gay is a noun!", but everyone knew it wasn't, and eventually that silliness just kind of became accepted because otherwise the homosexuals would have complained of homophobic discrimination.
Pep (And so we lost a good meaningful word.)"
Cato Badger said:
"Did you like it because I thought that since I have been posting like Pep and everybody has been suggesting I was Pep I would give everyone ammunition to point to in days to come to prove I was Pep.
Pep (Did it strike the right sort of resonant chord???)"
ETA8: Poor Saffy Pants. We're going to drive her mad at this rate. See here. Hey, this is why I pick a name and a forum pic (and even a color) and stick with it. ;)
Wednesday, August 17, 2011
Color me feliz. dadatic is on gV.
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Tuesday, August 16, 2011
Come on, colleen (over to the dark side of blog commenting)


Come on colleen,
I swear (well he means) At this moment you mean everything,
With you in that dress my thoughts I confess verge on dirty
Ah come on colleen.
Come on colleen, I swear, well he means
Ah come on let's take off everything,
That pretty red dress colleen (Tell him yes)
Ah come on let's, ah come on colleen, please.
Remember Toora Loora Toora Loo-Rye-Aye
colleen I'll hum this tune forever.
My apologies to Dexy's Midnight Runners.
colleen has reverted to a Spam can avatar on gV (most likely due to the events in the Crime thread). Hence the blog post. I hope colleen will pop on by and I hope Stephie gets an ear worm.
Link to colleen's blog: http://colleencriss.wordpress.com/
ETA: colleen's here! And she gave me this:
ETA2: colleen gave me a more current picture of her in a red dress. It's up at the top of the post.
ETA3: colleen in mesh...

Friday, August 12, 2011
gV Forum Ban Appeals Process

"the right to appeal
in the event that an inhabitant is subjected to quarantine or scrubbed, they will be afforded an opportunity to appeal to the community for relief."
If you get banned from gV and wish to appeal, it helps to solicit a sponsor to appeal on your behalf so you don't circumvent the alt rule and create grounds to be banned again.
nina said:
"i will say this though, the Inhabitant Rights state that pep has the right to appeal his banning. start a thread dedicated to peps appeal and lets see how people feel about the topic"
colleen said:
"Who reps the banned person?"
nina said:
"if there is a case where nobody wants to rep the banned person... that says a lot right there hey"
Precedent Case Study # 129
Appeal to Unban Pep (a mature area17-NSFW-Red thread with poll)
Lee said:
"I'd like to see Pep's ban be called a "temporary ban" and lifted. Quarantine him to NSFW maybe and let him decide if he is comfortable there, but I don't think he deserves a permaban. During some of this contentious back-and-forth over the last couple of days, when I, and others, tried to bump non-argument threads with light content up, like the game threads, he participated. He was one of the very few who participated. There have been a lot of nasty posts, mine included, a lot of argumentative posts and a few posts in the non-drama areas. Pep posted argumentative and non-drama alike in the last couple of days and none too different from what the rest of us posted. When he's not annoying the hell out of nina or fending off posts from people throwing old baggage at him, he's a delightful, intelligent, challenging and interesting poster who raises the bar and contributes to a place like this.
ETA: You want to be different from the other forums? You've already got Wasted and Wad, Lias and Lain...add Pep back in and be the forum that has room for all of them."
inhabitant 129
Mars said:
"the appeal for inhabitant 129 is now concluded.
the appeal thread has been marked read-only.
the inhabitants permanent ban has been commuted to a one week ban. by logging in, the inhabitant will agree to the following:
their username will be reverted to 'pep', without a reboot of the cooling down process
they will carry a 10 point infraction penalty for 120 days
inhabitant will cease with any attempts to negotiate behaviour with the mcp
this appeal is the final verdict. there will be no further appeals of this ruling.
please allow this to serve as a reminder: the antivirus modules function outside the realm of infractions and warnings. this is how it has been since day 0, and this is how it will remain in the future.
if an inhabitant finds themselves being followed by one of the antivirus modules, it is suggested they take stock of their behaviour and take the steps necessary to appear less virus-like.
edited to add: yes, we have taken note of this read-only poll, which does appear to be a bug."
Precedent Case Study # 368
inhabitant 368
Mars said:
"inhabitant 368 has been deactivated as per the alt abuse policy outlined in the community standards. it is not permitted to use a secondary account (alt) to flame or to stalk, harass, bully, or otherwise violate the community standards.
allowing an alt account to act out in such a manner will only contribute to a mistrust amongst inhabitants."
Isakk Hunt said:
"in the event that an inhabitant is subjected to quarantine or scrubbed, they will be afforded an opportunity to appeal to the community for relief.
So you poeslaps I have had to register another avatar to take up this right of appeal to the community. Lets start with the fact that Rudi was scrubbed for supposedly being the alt of someone who has a main here. I say I dont have a main here. I have lots of other avatars in forums and playing games all over the internet but why should that be relevant. Who is supposed to be my main account here at gotvirtualEarth and what evidence do you have. Or is this just another kultur klash that you would prefer not to have to justify."
Links:
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/inhabitant-129.1384/#post-63828
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/appeal-to-unban-pep-a-mature-area17-nsfw-red-thread-with-poll.1334/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/forum-feedback.1114/page-115#post-56298
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/unban-pep-but-not-lester.1333/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/forums/gv-governance.15/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/our-rights-part-ii.372/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/plan.1/page-7
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/plan.1/page-7#post-106635
http://gotvirtual.net/community/pages/community-standards/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/new-member-alert.746/page-88#post-106832
Back on the ranch in the saloon...
Saffy Pants posted this in the "London's burning: Rioters trash police station" thread on gV:
LeeHere said:
And from there, can you guess, yes, more talk about jealousy, mental health, necro-stalking, net nannying, obsession, passive-aggressiveness, post counts, reading comprehension, rude snark, trolling and emoticons...not so much about riots.
A forum stats thread was suggested.
Lain (is Bams) said:
![[IMG]](http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6200/6033475089_7939f15aae_z.jpg)
And gave Jolene a time-out.
Lias said:
Joshua was invoked. Again. Cristiano too. Again.
Lias said:
And then the muppet thread was maligned.
Lias said:
Kick defended the muppets and talked about his name-watching hobby.
I took one for the team.
Kick relived his angst over the Snowman competition.
And Mitch said this:
Bunnie enjoyed the activities.

Links:
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/londons-burning-rioters-trash-police-station.2340/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/the-saloon-a-mature-area17-nsfw-red-thread.1200/page-34#post-106080
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/the-naughty-thread-pics-vids-etc-there-will-be-nudity.410/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/new-petition-seeks-to-out-sesame-streets-bert-and-ernie-as-gay.2361/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/the-saloon-a-mature-area17-nsfw-red-thread.1200/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/necro-stalk-a-mature-area17-nsfw-red-thread.2368/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/take-it-outside-ii-area17-nsfw-red.1162/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/take-it-outside.806/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/take-it-outside.806/page-25#post-41838
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/take-it-outside.806/page-21#post-41456
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/zomgwtfbbqgtfololcats/62816-i-hate.html
"Oh dear nina. This sounds very like a report from the Iranian News Service and is quite, quite wrong. If it was some kind of revolt against poverty and injustice i might have had some sympathy and even cheered them on.Lias responded in "The Saloon" thread:
But this was simply the black drug gangs who run large parts of London suddenly realising that if enough of them went on the rampage in enough different locations they could not be stopped and their sheer audacity caught like a bush fire.
In many cases they went for poor Asian shopkeepers, they ransacked their own neighbours' houses and corner stores, they terrorised and robbed old people and torched their homes. In one terrible incident, when a group of Asian shopkeepers stood guard over their street, they simply drove a car into them, killing three of them. It was a mindless, causeless, drink-and-drug-fuelled rampage of insane greed. Incidentally the guy whose shooting started it all was a known gangster who was armed."
"What clever black gang members, to start a riot for no reason so they could steal candy from poor Asian shopkeepers. At least no Caucasians were killed. You can thank your White God for that at least."Saffy Pants replied:
"Think this is in the wrong thread Lias, but never mind. It is quite true that the trouble started when members of the black community gathered to protest at the death of Mark Duggan. Anger boiled, a window was smashed, chaos ensued, the police stood off, more windows were smashed, a shop was looted and suddenly it was all over the Blackberry group messaging net and the orgy started all over the country.On-topic discussion for no more than about a page and a half, including me mentioning what appears to me to be a personal policy change for Lias (I was later corrected, natch) and then Lias called out Tarzan:
I can't believe you are trying to justify what happened."
"Pathetic is YOU Tarzan. Your sad and desperate 'backchannel' thread only had 77 responses and 656 views in 6 days.
My thread has 112 replies and 732 views overnight.
Do better. Don't lash out at me because of your 'shortcomings'"Bunnie said:
"I have you all beat! The Naughty Thread(Pics, vids, etc. There will be nudity!)
And yah! Take that! I don't know how to tell views and all that, but I bet it kicks your threads asses! Plus you get nakedy goodness!
I rule!
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"
LeeHere said:
"Forum Feedback, while not naughty per se, and certainly not as popular as Bunnie's fabulously successful thread (128,391 views), has over 22,000 views. Just sayin'.
p.s.Lain (is Bams)' Standing invitation for SCMK-II and SLU People who have an axe to grind..... thread has over 50,000 views."
And from there, can you guess, yes, more talk about jealousy, mental health, necro-stalking, net nannying, obsession, passive-aggressiveness, post counts, reading comprehension, rude snark, trolling and emoticons...not so much about riots.
A forum stats thread was suggested.
Lain (is Bams) said:
"Only is we get kill points and the ability to collect the avatars of our victims on a trophy page.Bunnie said:
![]()
"
"Lias said:Kinky banana says let's do it! (The thread idea, pervs.)"
"Post counts are important."
"I was here first."Lias kept score, suggested badges and made a banner.
"I would like some nice shiny badges under my avatar picture to show off my accomplishments Nina."
![[IMG]](http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6200/6033475089_7939f15aae_z.jpg)
And gave Jolene a time-out.
Lias said:
"Your time-out ends on August 20th.
Use that time to figure out how you can converse without name calling and trying to incite fights on a discussion forum."
Joshua was invoked. Again. Cristiano too. Again.
Lias said:
"Colleen, CaTo and Lee were fun tonight.
Jolene is on a time-out until she can pull her head out of Joshua's ass over at SLU."Jolene carried the message to Joshua over on SLU.
And then the muppet thread was maligned.
Lias said:
"I won't even click the 'Sesame Street Gay Marriage Petition' thread because it is stupid. Colleen should lose 500 post points just for starting the thread."I'm not making this up.
Kick defended the muppets and talked about his name-watching hobby.
I took one for the team.
Kick relived his angst over the Snowman competition.
And Mitch said this:
"I'm a fly in your ointment.... the sand in the crack of your ass at the beach... the ants at the picnic.... but go on.... keep pretending that I'm not here....."
Bunnie enjoyed the activities.
Links:
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/londons-burning-rioters-trash-police-station.2340/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/the-saloon-a-mature-area17-nsfw-red-thread.1200/page-34#post-106080
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/the-naughty-thread-pics-vids-etc-there-will-be-nudity.410/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/new-petition-seeks-to-out-sesame-streets-bert-and-ernie-as-gay.2361/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/the-saloon-a-mature-area17-nsfw-red-thread.1200/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/necro-stalk-a-mature-area17-nsfw-red-thread.2368/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/take-it-outside-ii-area17-nsfw-red.1162/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/take-it-outside.806/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/take-it-outside.806/page-25#post-41838
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/take-it-outside.806/page-21#post-41456
http://www.sluniverse.com/php/vb/zomgwtfbbqgtfololcats/62816-i-hate.html
Labels:
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Banners, borking and spam cans, oh my.

Banners, borking and spam cans. Sound familiar?
gV has a collection of user-made banners in the user albums and multiple banner threads. They are currently used for thread posts and off-site advertising.
Mulch has stated his pro-position on borking for his new forum.
Mulch said:
"i am NOT above borking"
LeeHere said:
"I'm not a fan of administrative borking of posts."
Mulch said:
"you will if i do it
fyi, smf software does NOT have borking (that i am aware of), so its safe"
And gV now has Spam cans for members without forum avatars.
nina said:
"i found the spam tin av too irresistable:
"
Best and worst of the past? What's next? I'm rooting for user-created thread tags on gV.
Links:
http://gotvirtual.net/community/useralbums/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/gv-advertising-banners.970/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/a-gv-advertising-campaign.758/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/a-gv-advertising-campaign-ii.1191/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/too-soon-for-banners-d.27/
http://gotvirtual.net/community/useralbums/banners.3/view
http://gotvirtual.net/community/useralbums/kicks-banners.6/view
http://gotvirtual.net/community/useralbums/gv-banners.30/view
http://gotvirtual.net/community/useralbums/lias-banners.32/view
http://gotvirtual.net/community/useralbums/gv-banners-by-lain-free-license-to-use-credit-uneeded.12/view
http://gotvirtual.net/community/useralbums/lees-gotvirtual-banners.5/view
http://gotvirtual.net/community/useralbums/lees-gotvirtual-banners-ii.8/view
http://gotvirtual.net/community/useralbums/lees-gotvirtual-banners-iii.11/view
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/mulch-ragequits-scii.2357/page-7#post-106756
http://gotvirtual.net/community/threads/mulch-ragequits-scii.2357/page-6#post-106068
http://fetedinnerhorde.com/forums/
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